printing Print and Play games

[yamizero]

i've been looking for a printing service company (similar to Kinkos) where you could have Print-2-play games (board and cards) printed like it was a pro-published game.

One place already mentioned is Arkigrafix(?) in QC. Down here in the south, haven't come across any cheap ones(or any, they must be hiding). Around Recto and UST were also mentioned to have such services but unfortunately i don't have the luxury of time of visiting, going through and canvassing all the shops.

Maybe the collective community could provide information for:
a. location of such establishments or promotion of their own services
b. services offered - preferably along with rates

i'm guessing our local game designers and other indie p2p gamers would also appreciate the info as well.

i don't mind buying card sleeves and just printing it but that would require me to buy the sleeves so why not just have the whole card printed. but that's just me.

PS

didn't really know where this should fit in under existing forum categories or if this thread already exists. if so, can you point me the way? think i'm sort of lost.

[Gaebril]

For printing cards, I'll go with Fujifilm photo printing every time. It's stiff enough that it doesn't need another card for backing. I do prefer to sleeve mine, although of course I put premium sleeves on all of my games anyway. Note that you need a 300dpi resolution, otherwise it will just look blurry. 300dpi means that your CCG sized card should be 750x1050 pixels.

For boards - yeah, I'd like to know myself. My first post on these forums was asking how to mount my paper maps from my minis games. I still haven't figured out a good solution. 

[yamizero]

hmm~ premium sleeves as in the  - MTG/FFG/Mayfair brands?

how much does it cost per print?

i have mine in pdf format so, don't really know the pixel size.

i wonder if there's somewhere where you could have linen cards printed locally. or at the least the bendy poker card-type.

[Earl]

Recommend any good print and play games?

[Gaebril]

@ Yamizero:

A 3R the size of exactly two CCG cards side by side. One 3R costs 4-6php, so a CCG sized card is a little over 2 php per card.

You could print it wallet sized, but I think that's much more expensive for some reason.

For sleeves I use FFG for boardgames, KMC for CCG-sized card games. Sleeves are usually ~120 for 50 pcs.

PDF - well that's a tough one. I think you'd have to save it as individual JPGs first to print it at a Fujifilm.


@ Earl:

http://www.sirlingames.com/collections/yomi

[yamizero]

@gaebril - exactly why i was looking for the card printing. whole set costs $99! cheaper as compared to getting a single pack but still... though the playmats are nice. and so is the black bold box. but still...

@earl - as gaebril said. Yomi. and i'm also planning to have the Small World and Power Grid unofficial maps made.

other than that, i guess i'm just looking for weird games.. like this one

http://www.fourhman.com/fatalframe/cards.html

[Gaebril]

Heh, well you can ask MMJ to show you how the prints look if you see him - I think he'll be printing out a set of Yomi for himself as well.

[yamizero]

actually found a thread ~printing homebrew games started some time ago. had tips on how to go about this...

my next question would be...

where could i get cheap mtg sized card sleeves for cheap. the one with a colored back?

NG
120 - 50 pack ultra pro sleeves (plain colors, there's about 9 colors total)
400 - 80 pack with the pretty pics

i guess the easy way out is get one color for all the cards but, i guess, personal preference i would want to have each deck to have a different color sleeve. unfortunately, i have 56 cards. so that would require me to buy 2 packs of 50. which brings me back to my question... does anyone know a cheaper place to get them?

[maskmanjoe]

Care to re-share the link?

About cheap sleeves, I too toiled on thinking of a way to manage printed decks and decided having differently colored sleeves for every deck is just frustratingly difficult to maintain. My solution: one sleeve color and a good deck box with dividers

[yamizero]

Haha. Sorry bout that. had a hard time with the laptop.

http://www.tabletopwars.com/bb/index.php/topic,4357.0.html

@the sleeves thing.
it really is a pain. but then i guess sharing would be the way to go. but a deck requires 1 1/2 packs of sleeves multiply by 10 decks (damn completist blood) = 180 x 10 = !?!?!?! hahaha. savings comes at about 1-1.5K i reckon. as opposed to buying the game. you just don't get the pretty box and the life play mats.

[Gaebril]

Problem with ultra pros are, their little holofoil logo ends up on the most awkward places. I prefer KMC sleeves - they have no holofoil and feel a little better. 260php for 100.

Man, where were you guys when I was sleeving my set? We could have split 200 per color, three ways. Well, as it is, at least I got to color code my WoW decks as well.

EDIT: @ Yami - you're assuming you wouldn't have sleeved your $100 Yomi set. *shudder*

[jase]

Brel has sleeves, but I think it's clear sleeves only.

I've seen in a saizen shop (like japan home) sleeves black back and white back selling for 89 pesos 50pcs. But I don't know of the quality.

Any news about a linen finish / card I'll be glad also. I have some PnP games from bgg.

[yamizero]

@gaeb -  in limbo. a.k.a. the no cash zone! you wouldn't happen to have spares would you? 

where are KMC sleeves available locally? and would you know if they at least come in 10 different colors?

@yomi thing - if i got the orig game, id probably just have it on display. haha. lol. though as advertised, the cards were printed/made to withstand constant use. i guess. has that Poker Card finish and all. bendy too~!

@linen cards - China. hehe. still haven't come across any locally. must be in remote places, hidden from PnP games. hahaha. will continue looking though, might get lucky someday. though.. i'm guessing it would be quite pricy considering the scarcity of the service and the material. but that's just me assuming. i'm hoping the U-belt people would know since they're pretty close to printing shops of all sorts.

[Gaebril]

KMC is usually available at at courtside. They have at least 9 colors, maybe more. I do have some extra sleeves, but not a comprehensive set at this point - PM me if you really want to talk about it.

[ChineezPnoy]

...
where could i get cheap mtg sized card sleeves for cheap. the one with a colored back?

NG
120 - 50 pack ultra pro sleeves (plain colors, there's about 9 colors total)
400 - 80 pack with the pretty pics

i guess the easy way out is get one color for all the cards but, i guess, personal preference i would want to have each deck to have a different color sleeve. unfortunately, i have 56 cards. so that would require me to buy 2 packs of 50. which brings me back to my question... does anyone know a cheaper place to get them?

Aaargh...
Wat 2do when u got like less than 60 cards & commercial packs r sold @ min of 50's 
Answer... ask me 

Seriously, bin in dat dilemma alredy dats why I got spare Ultra-Pro sleeves in my cabinet.

I believe I got like plain black, gray & gold.
Pls contact me thru my cell so I can check & immediately respond if I got wat u need.

All d best dis season bud.